It was not trespassing to hand out material on private property.

Basically the whole area was a privately owned town. It was a company town, kind of like Facebook, google and twitter. Sure they say they are private but they HAVE the public square and can not diminish others rights of assembly or speech.

This is exactly what they are doing. One can try and squirm all they want into the subject but those entities own the public square and they can not step on your rights. They need to be sued.

Sure it is their town and they can run it how they like but they need to continue with the principles within our society, laid down n our founding documents.

  • What is realHow do you define real? If you’re talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.
  • Have you ever had a dream Neo, that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to wake from that dream? How would you know the difference between the dream world, and the real world?

Do things sometimes seem as if we are living in a movie. Things are so absurd. People act without reason, without any awareness of events yesterday – or last year?

Well maybe there are reasons we experience certain things. Maybe events have been made to happen and they are made to happen in a way for all of us to react a certain way?


Watch this clip. If anything else you will just think it may be enjoyable. Maybe it is real. I have seen enough proof and believe the President is part of the Team which is referred to as Q. For real. Also, this clip has been around for awhile but Joe M updates and refines it every once in awhile. This was updated March 2019.

Maybe everything is real.

I’m trying to free your mind, Neo. But I can only show you the door. You’re the one that has to walk through it.

This is a great point by Jeff Carlson at epic times.

The Main point “how can Trump obstruct an investigation he was not aware of?” How is Trump going obstruct an investigation he was not aware of was going on?

You may be asking what I am talking about. You have to realize the Dems and their Media goon friends are now moving from collusion to obstruction in the Trump investigations. Lets bring up Jim Baker of the FBI. He is one of the head attorneys at the top of the FBI, and was right-hand man to Jim Comey. He is intimately familiar with this small group of people attacking the Trump team through the spy gate scandal.  This is Baker’s testimony under oath to Congressman John Radcliffe. In testimony to congress Baker admitted, “Trump was never told he may be the subject of a criminal investigation”.

Congressman Ratcliffe asks “so do you know if at any point in time that Jim Comey as FBI director, ever tell President Trump that President Trump was under criminal investigation?”  

Baker – “I think—my understanding and belief is that he was never told—that he told the President the opposite.”  

Trump was not in their investigation! How can Trump obstruct an investigation he wasn’t even told existed?

Joe Sixpack is guilty of obstructing the investigation of the bank robbery he did, we are told. Does Joe Sixpack know he was under investigation for bank robbery, no?  Joe Sixpack had no idea he was under investigation so how could he obstruct an investigation?  Sure you can say Joe Sixpack robbed a bank and knows he is under investigation for something he did and he will cover all tracks he can to keep from going to jail but without any evidence there can be no investigation. Where is the evidence? 2 years and zero evidence! Did Joe Sixpack really rob a bank or are we just talking about it, pretending it happened?

Yeah this is the brilliant point Jeff Carlson made in his editorial investigation.

Here are the two or three huge takeaways from last weeks testimonies and investigations.

One takeaway would be Andy McCabe still has not proved that there was any evidence to open the case outside the dossier, no predicate, he still has not said anything about predicate crimes.

Matter of fact he (McCabe) made it worse Feb 20, 2019 by indicating in an interview that all of the information we know they used to target the Trump team had already been made public, there is no new information they can see investigating. In other words, we know everything according to McCabe, they started the investigation in the FBI with all this and there is nothing more.  

McCabe was one of the lead guys in charge of all of it and there’s nothing.  He’s now admitting there is no more information and they have nothing.

One of the other takeaways would be what McCabe told Rubio under oath two days after Comey was fired. He said that there was quote “no effort (by Trump) to obstruct his investigation”  of the FBI investigation of President Trump. That’s takeaway number two devastating.

But, this has got to be take away number three – Jim Baker upper-echelon lawyer in the FBI under oath tells congressman Radcliffe that “Trump was told he wasn’t even under investigation”, so how could Trump obstruct an investigation he was told didn’t even exist?  

To be fair to the liberal lunatics, because I want to prepare you for point and counter point the liberal lunatics will say. They will say he was going to obstruct investigations into other people? No, no, no, no this is so important.  The President himself, according to Jim Comey “The president went on to say that if there were some ‘satellite’ associates of his who did something wrong, it would be good to find that out, but that he hadn’t done anything wrong and hoped I would find a way to get it out that we weren’t investigating him,”.

How is that evidence of obstruction on an investigation with other people?  It seems a little bit weird how he’s being investigated for obstructing an investigation to himself because he was told he wasn’t under investigation. Oh well, he was clearly trying to obstruct investigations into his other people RIGHT!  That’s not what Jim Comey said! Comey said Trump actually asked him to find out if there was any misdeeds or malfeasance with his quote “satellites”!

My gosh are you liberals this stupid! Do you have any evidence of anything ever? I mean outside of “I think therefore I am”. Do you know one word Descartes tried to distill how he could prove he existed, “I think therefore I must be”, you’re not even thinking therefore you must not be?

Descartes got this all wrong. Well I think, therefore I don’t know. You think, therefore you are not thinking.

You’ve got nothing.

You’ve got no collusion. 

You’ve got no predicate

You’ve got no obstruction against Trump case.

You’ve got no obstruction on Trump against other people.

You’ve got nothing.

You’re just making this whole thing up.

Takeaway number three. The liberals will tell you in a counterpoint by May of 2017, while all of this is happening there must be some other evidence out there that maybe Andy McCabe is unaware of. Remember McCabe’s already said in an interview this week no no “everything’s already out there”. So the Liberals will say, because they’re frauds and they’re fakes and they’re phonies and they love to lie and make stuff up, they’ll say Andy McCabe wasn’t the investigator in the case, Peter Strzok from the FBI was the investigator. Clearly he (Strzok) knew something. But did he, because here’s a quote from Jeff Carlson’s epic Times piece text from Peter Strzok the lead investigator in May of 2017 to his girlfriend FBI lawyer Lisa Paige, “you and I both know the odds are nothing, if I thought it was likely I’d be there no question. I hesitate in part because of my gut sense and concern there’s no big there-there”.

This is the lead investigator in the case telling his girlfriend, another FBI employee, via text while talking about this collusion probe that the odds are quote “nothing, there’s no there-there” but this again this won’t stop liberals, no no they’ll say, maybe he’s just trying to impress his girlfriend and she’s got the goods.

Okay here’s Lisa Page, with the goods, page who was asked about asked about this text during her July 2018 testimony said “I think this represents that even as far as May of 2017 we still couldn’t answer the question”. In other words the girlfriend Lisa Page the FBI lawyer to Strzok the lead investigator is acknowledging that, we just didn’t know anything.

Oh my gosh this case, this stupid never ends. It just goes on and on and on, it’s like a seven layer cake of stupid. A seven layer cake has layers of cake and fudge and/or other fillings. This whole democrat pile-on is like a seven layer cake of stupid. It’s like dumb piled up on top of stupid piled on top of moronic, topped with piles of lies on it. This so dumb I’m getting dumber thinking about it. Care for a piece of cake? No I’m dumb enough already, thank you. I have reached peak stupid I’m good, my stupid tank is full. It’s like guy in the gas station that gets issue when the automatic shutoff kicks in and he’s still trying to get gas and the gas starts coming back up onto the ground, but this stupid is coming out with the left and they are starting a gasoline fire of stupid, it’s unbelievable.

Also credit Dan Bongino for the discussion

This is very much a work in progress. I come into more knowledge and information which will cause me to correct and/or adjust my position/perspective/understanding on the issues or topics. Seeing that I am putting this information forward for everyone to view, I place this information above a simple passing conversation or quick response to another persons view of events. I do hold myself accountable to facts. Whatever truths people want to make out of them would also require I carry some burden, though I believe that is much less. What ever the case, I I am correcting this writ of understanding as I see fit.
I will figure some means to show revisions. I might start foot noting changes but I should probably get some permissions before laying that down. I must stress this information is my best summary of all that I know about what happened and what is being done now. This is only my opinion. I want to be factual and clear enough so if someone has any questions they can ask them so they get a clear answer. I do not want to cause any confusion. There are some people in the area who have a much greater understanding of the previous board and historical repairs or events within the district. Though those items are relevant in part to what we are facing currently, that knowledge is not everything which is needed to get through this crisis. Whether the crisis is real or if there is a perception of a crisis can be debated by some, and it should be healthily debated.
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I have been to 3 public volunteer committee meetings the BW&SD has held. There will be one more before we will consider our task complete.
I would like to share some information I have determined necessary to float around before our fact finding sessions are complete. I do not want to come across (yet) as being swayed to believe certain options, or appear trying to sway anyone who is reading this. We are still fact finding. However there are some facts which I did not have for the first vote, back in November.
There is some major information which was either not shared to people or the current was strong due to opposing forces which didn’t like the vote we had (for whatever reasoning) and their bad information drowned out the facts.
For what it is worth. If we were to have another vote tomorrow, I still do not know how I would vote.
What I thought was true: Plan A would make our water bill $100.

False: Plan A would have increased our bill by $15ish dollars. Plan C was $7-8. Nor is there any plan to put a water tower in the center of town. I have no idea where that came from. More light has come to me concerning the plans we voted on, my original numbers may have been based on specific physical item cost replacements. Base rate bill total (water and sewer) for plan A would be more like.
Also: I was fearful of this BOND because the old BWSD dissolved, new people come in and less than a year later we were told we had to spend millions. It seemed unethical, corrupt, and polarized locals. I don’t think like that anymore. I just think we have a group of people who are trying to service the water and sewer district and where few of them are water and sewer district people. They are doing what they can do with the regulations and agency allowances they are given. The system would work much better if it was privatized locally, and I don’t mean some multi national corp privatized BS. Just saying they all are not people who are educated in, schooled in water and sewer but only have their individual past experience. How things are done in another city is not how we do it here, they are finding out.

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They didn’t get the information out to us as well as they should have for the last bond election. They did try to get the information out. What is the best way to get the info out? We are still trying to figure that out.
Bonding stuff: Goes like this and it is horse-hockey. Send out Requests for Qualifications. State law, they have to. You don’t ask for bids, which is what I was expecting. It doesn’t work that way. State requires we find people who have the qualifications to do what is needed first. Then the group we receive back from, we can then work on getting estimates. This all takes time, one on one stuff, answering and asking questions so the board HAS to make a decision on one. They picked JUB, who has done stuff around the area previously. Would they be my choice? I don’t know. I am not against them and at this time I’m past holding any grievances on that selection. It’s not worth riding that horse any longer. JUB can do the job and I don’t find info on the net they are crooks.
Another thing about the bonding and loaning of money, which I didn’t understand. We have to ask for more money than we need. We just do. We don’t want to have to try and get a second loan to cover some pop-up expenses or over-runs (heaven forbid). It’s kind of like taking out a partial loan for a new car and to cover where your savings stops, instead of the whole amount for the car. Then the fridge goes out and your out of savings and you already have a big car payment. That’s going to suck having two payments.
More on the loan. The loan is given by IDEQ (Idaho Department of Environmental Quality). Henceforth called DEQ. They are the ones who will administer the loan plus they are the ones who pay the contractors to perform the work. BWSD never gets a check for the bond amount, it is all handled by DEQ. If I were to be watching waste and efficiency of work, it would be DEQ payments to the contractors. BWSD is out of that game. JUB will be engineering what work is done and recommend (my guess) who does the work but Bayview will never be sending payments for work done. We also do not start paying on the bond until all the work is complete.
We are still fact finding information about the water transmission lines, info about the tower, and more info about the meters. Once we have completed the next meeting we will know how we are going to meet the public to answer your questions. I do believe the board wants what will make everyone happy and some of that might be compromise and some might be education, them or us.
We have spent a lot of time speaking our minds and telling the board why we think the public did not vote to pass the bond. What I want from you are your ideas, how to get you the information you need to make your decision. The time for bitching all day is over. I truly believe the majority of residents in Bayview agree some repairs are in order and we need to make the repairs if we are out of options. So what repairs are best? ALL, SOME, NONE? The board IS going to make a decision, we can either help them (one way or another) or not.

Reminder there is talk about sewer repairs/upgrades

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What say you?


What is freedom? I have hinted at asking the question outright these last few days on social media. What is freedom?

As most everyone who knows me understands I am a libertarian, but I sense few understand my view of what this entails for me. What I imagine it entails for you.

Again, what is freedom? Some would say freedom is the ability to do whatever one desires whenever they want. They will say they should have freedom to do what ever they want and it’s the “MAN” who is oppressing them. The “system” needs to come down and remove the restrictions that have been placed upon their necks.

I would call those who say those things as incorrect. I would even go as far as to say they know nothing of freedom and their knowledge of freedom comes only from the Constitution document our country was founded on, and also from the propaganda of WAR. War books, movies, internet, radio, and more. I would go even further to say those who believe the definition of freedom is being able to do whatever they want, whenever they desire to do it, as “Slaves”. I would call them slaves to the system they know nothing about. Slaves to self interests possibly.


What is freedom? I ask again.

Freedom is the ability to control yourself and be self governing. Freedom is to be sovereign. Sovereignty has a definition as “Complete independence and self-government.” NOT doing something is ACTUALLY expressing TRUE FREEDOM. YOU and I CHOOSE to do, or not to do. Being all gung ho about cannabis, alright – I don’t care. Are you only thinking about the now, the want, the need? Where does that desire come from? It is controlling you. You are a slave to it. It is your master. If that is all you think about. But whatever – do what you want. However, freedom for my neighbor, freedom for the sick, freedom for the homeless, freedom for those being educated is my desire. It’s evolution, and when we gather together towards those goals, walk that way together, no one is going to care if your smoking dope, or are lbgtq-ouse, or whatever. Why, because the NEEDS for freedom will be in the act of being fulfilled and your selfishness will not be overriding those needs of others. Your freedom of control will self fulfill the needs of others, which will in turn give you more freedom to do whatever your heart desires.

The ministry of smoke and mirrors will show you flashy objects. They will show you fancy clothes. The media can capture you and fill you with sacrifice for yourself and others. What is COOL? What is the NEW thing? Why do people want those things?

Are these things they want to do, due to media and social pressure influence? Is it the FAD? Clothes, tats, hair and the like.  Are these folks really expressing freedom of ruling themselves as sovereign bodies and minds? Or are they slaves to the blowing winds of social programming?

If you desire certain things . . . FINE. I am fine with it as long as you are not going to make me, willingly or unwillingly do something I would not come up with on my own, without outside influence. However if you want to do something, I don’t care. Where this line of reasoning come to conclusion is with the way people carry the thought freedom is being able to do whatever they want, when ever they want.

For me? I find greater commonality with a group of rabble rouses who decided to cast off the chains which bound them and declared a new era of FREEDOM. They cast off a tyrannical king and fought for the right to make their own system.  A new system, a new thought where we ruled ourselves in a different way. 

Self rule = Freedom. I will argue I am more free than some, less free than others. I decide, but if someone else is making all my little decisions = my ruler. 

Turn of the MSM!

Here is a copy of one of Bayview’s Residents Norma Jean Knowles comment on a Bayview page and it concerns the vote on a 5 million dollar bond to fix our Water and Sewer system. I am voting NO on this bond when I vote on November 6th. This community is little over 200-300 people and a 5 million dollar bond does not make sense

I know that the politics can get somewhat boring and irritating, this just happens to be the fastest way of getting information out to all of you so I am including this letter I received a minutes ago. We have to be able to make informed decisions, so we all need other perspectives. Thank you so much for your patience and understanding: I have been involved, from the very beginning, with the BWSD water facilities plan. The proposed Bond placed on the ballot has such far-reaching consequence on our little village, I wanted to share some of my thoughts with you based on my involvement and the path to the option the board ultimately put on the ballot.

) No consideration was given to choosing an option that was fiscally responsible and recognized that a large portion of our users are living at or below the poverty level.
) The attitude of this board that they know what is best for the residents of Bayview and they are going to determine what is right for us has been fundamental to the whole process. They want a mega million 75-100 year project that is so far beyond what our little group of users need or can afford. They gave no serious consideration to other affordable options to fix the systems deficiencies at an affordable fee structure. I was there!
) There are other options that will address the major deficiencies of our system a a cost we can afford. The board was intent on paving the way for development instead of addressing the existing needs of our system. 
)Their attitude that the burden of the cost for future development lies soley on the shoulders of our small group of existing users, instead of growth paying for itself, not only goes against the convention adopted by most non-profit community systems, it is fiscally irresponsible to saddle EACH USER with over $7,000. of fees to subsidize growth. Growth should pay for itself!
) This board is still engaged in spending beyond it’s budget for operations costs which is indicative of fee increases to come above the amount to repay the bond which is an 83% increase to the base rate before any increase for operations.
The board has stated their intention to do a sewer system study next which will, most likely, result in more increases.
) This is all about what our vision for Bayview is. I fall into the camp that does not want a 4 story resort on the waterfront downtown. This Bond, if approved, promotes the vision, not only for the resort, but the build-out of the whole hillside north of Capehorn Road with our small group of users picking up the tab.

Thanks for listening, please feel free to share this information with anyone you choose to.

Here is my candidate forum Oct 23rd. I am in the first group of candidates, and second one to speak. We each were given 1 minute for an opening statement then the press gave us 3 questions, we took turns answering. We had 90 seconds to answer each question and after all that we were given 90 seconds for closing statements.

Mike Patrick who is the chief editor of the CDA press was the moderator and did a superb job. Judd Wilson and Brian Walker are the two CDA Press Reporters who did a great job asking questions. This was sponsored by CDA TV whom I am thankful to for inviting me. Nice production. Okay, that stuff said;

I had a blast. I think I answered the questions well, however there are some topics I wish I could have backed off a little and not been so strong. Likewise I could have carried a few thoughts further. Oh well, it was my first official press forum and I had fun.

The Democratic on my right, Mr. Broadsword, did get to have the last say. He was the final person with a closing statement and he got me. He got me good which caused the whole room to erupt with laughter. It was good natured how he said it and I have heard that type of thing before. When he finished his teary eyed heart felt 90 seconds and sat back, I looked at him and said “that was beautiful”. He looked at me with with the deer in the headlights, speechless. I suppose he didn’t know if I was being sarcastic for his slam on me. LOL, I am having the last laugh.

Steve Vick started to give me the vib I scared him, as he actually has competition. The audience didn’t exactly know how to take me, I am so serious but a nice guy with heart. What is this non-republican, non-democrat dude! This doesn’t fit my preconceptions!

I finished my closing statements asking the voters to check out W. Scott Howard for House Rep, and to write in Marc Eberlein for county commissioner.

YouTube Video by CDA TV below

This mornings article by the CDA Press below


Credit CDA Press and CDA TV

partially cleaned up transcript from Stefan Molyneux podcast shared at the bottom.

It is not a pleasant thing to watch the spread of truth.

The truth crosses the landscape, half an angel, and half a zombie.

The truth crosses the landscape looking like a hero to some and a devil to many.

The truth lifts some people up and dances with them, and the truth sucker punches other people and throws them over its shoulder.

The truth is laughter to some and a succubus to others

The truth is a fighter who fights alongside you for some and a fighter who punches you in the face for others.

The truth spreads like a glorious light, like a sunbeam burning through the mist, and other times truth sometimes spreads like a black flecked virus.

The truth lurches, careens, dances, and smashes its way across the human landscape.

When truth is freed, and does its horrible bloody surgical work across the human landscape leaving some elevated, some dancing, some flying, and some curled up weeping.

The truth is not pretty as it spreads.

The truth sometimes spreads like a blood stain, a wound to the prior illusion, spilling as it spreads.

The truth reads to some like a hymn book and to others like a funeral list, a casualty list.

The truth comes to some as beautiful swordplay and to others as a random midnight stabbing. The truth is glorious and terrible in turns.

The truth is the two sides of Janus.

The truth is the laughter and the tragedy masks of comedy.

The truth is a caress and a slap, a massage and a beating.

The truth doesn’t set you free all the time, maybe eventually, but the truth most often reveals that you’re in a cage. You felt freer before the truth, “But hey! I thought I was in a field but turns out I’m in a tiny cage”. Oh! I thought the people around me were my friends! But, they were succubus and vampires, fully founded on limiting my potential, only invested in keeping me small like them!

Fuck you truth! Turn the light on and find out I’m in hell! I thought it was just a brutally long sunset! No! It’s Hell itself!

Now you can begin to borrow out, but it’s pretty horrible when the lights go on. 

We think that the truth is like some wonderful starlight or moonlight that guides us through a challenging midnight landscape.  No, No! Truth is like a bomb! Boom, it blows us wide and high into the sky, spins us and it turns off seasons while it shreds us and we fall in pieces, and then try to reassemble ourselves into a human shape.

The truth is shell shock!

The truth is being buried in a coffin of reality and hoping you can claw your way out, and then that there’ll be somebody there when you get to the surface! Maybe, maybe, maybe truth has cannon fired us into a desert and hoping you’ll find an oasis while staggered and blindfolded.

Truth sucks there’s only one thing that sucks more than the truth, and that’s long-term lies! Short-term lies are beautiful, long-term lies are hell itself!

The truth is a predator that hunts what lies within us, and that which lies within us runs and fights and claws to remain with the herd of liars, to remain with the wildebeast of wanderlust and falseness, that what loves lies within us is the Satan of our syrupy false selves.

The truth comes along with facts, reason, evidence, arguments and data and says you think you are alive but you are but a ghost, cast by historical prejudice.

You think you have form, that you have shape, and you think because you move, you live, you are a skeleton blown by the winds of all the bullshit that came before that is who you are, who you are is who you ain’t.

Who you are is somebody who was evacuated and filled in with the prejudice and lies and servitude of the mistress of mankind! You are a useful robot and a useful idiot designed in the vast horizontal slave market of whacking down anybody who sticks their head up from the trench of delusion. “I think I see something cut him down”, “hey is that the phone ringing?” “Is that the truth?” “Smash the phone! don’t find it”, and we all think that we want the truth and then someone comes along and speaks the truth! Fuck you here’s some hemlock!

Fuck you, you’re a cult leader! Fuck you, you racist. Oh! This is the truth!

Hey we all want the truth don’t we?

Truth is cool! Oh not that truth! Oh no, no, not that truth! No, no that’s bad, that’s bad truth. Good truth is over there, good truth is with the comfortable. This bad truth causes problems. Truth, Jesus, ah somebody speaks the truth nail him up, fill him full of hemlock right! Slander about him, tell everyone he’s a terrible guy. He’s got the truth! We must put the Mark of Cain upon him, the scarlet letter of T on his forehead, he shall wander through life accursed because he has facts that we don’t like! He’s a fascist! No he’s a factist! You’re missing a “T” fact ist not fascist it’s not antifa it’s antifact!

That’s where we are as a society, but thank God we can finally see it! We’ll thank the internet and thank the truth-tellers that we can finally see it.

Finally we see the shadow cast by humanity when the truth is visible.

Visible at the click of a button, truth is visible with the swipe of a fingertip, you can finger the truth and impregnate your mind, thereby to fix my analogies so you focus on the truth you focus on that which transmits the truth and you take your punishment for telling the truth because that’s what the truth demands! Can you live without doing it? I guess you can try. I can’t though, I can’t.

The Statement of Principles was approved at the Convention in Dallas in 1974.

We, the members of the Libertarian Party, challenge the cult of the omnipotent state and defend the rights of the individual.

We hold that all individuals have the right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives, and have the right to live in whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they choose.

Governments throughout history have regularly operated on the opposite principle, that the State has the right to dispose of the lives of individuals and the fruits of their labor. Even within the United States, all political parties other than our own grant to government the right to regulate the lives of individuals and seize the fruits of their labor without their consent.

We, on the contrary, deny the right of any government to do these things, and hold that where governments exist, they must not violate the rights of any individual: namely, (1) the right to life—accordingly we support the prohibition of the initiation of physical force against others; (2) the right to liberty of speech and action—accordingly we oppose all attempts by government to abridge the freedom of speech and press, as well as government censorship in any form; and (3) the right to property—accordingly we oppose all government interference with private property, such as confiscation, nationalization, and eminent domain, and support the prohibition of robbery, trespass, fraud, and misrepresentation.

Since governments, when instituted, must not violate individual rights, we oppose all interference by government in the areas of voluntary and contractual relations among individuals. People should not be forced to sacrifice their lives and property for the benefit of others. They should be left free by government to deal with one another as free traders; and the resultant economic system, the only one compatible with the protection of individual rights, is the free market.

More information can be found at

Libertarian Party of Idaho

Panhandle happenings 


Many Libertarians and Republicans see the world as coercion verses liberty. We are afraid of big government and power because we don’t want to be coerced into doing things we don’t want to do.

We don’t want to be coerced into giving more money to big government and having to work harder for them rather than us. We don’t want to be coerced to make medical decisions we don’t want to make because we have to ask the government for permission first. We don’t want to be coerced into sending our kids to schools that stink because the government said so.

We see it as a liberty issue. We want to pick our own schools. We want to pick our own doctors. We want to spend our own money.  We make a trade off though. We do understand there are some issues of large overwhelming majority collective agreement, that there are some instances where we will forfeit over our money and our ability to make economic decisions. Some are things in the constitution, for example we understand there is a need for some collective defense mechanism to defend our country (call it military). We can argue about the constitution roads and things like that, but besides that even the most ardent libertarians and conservatives can agree there are some areas of fundamental agreement. Courts to adjudicate contract agreements and things like that.

Liberals see the world differently. They see the world as the oppressor verses the oppressed. In other words, there is always going to be some victim group out there of oppressed people, LGBTQ, minority, Asian, Islamic, woman, union. Everything is someone verses someone else and it always someone involved in the use of power versus someone using that power to oppress someone else.

When you see the world in those two distinct ways it is very hard for those two worlds to mesh, but let’s make the case that this is what is leading to this excessive partisan divide right now, but more so the liberals who divide and demonize us, not so much the libertarian and conservatives effort to demonize the liberals. Many of the libertarians and conservatives I know understand the oppressor versus the oppressed narrative, that the liberals live by is very real, very real. Government throughout time oppressed people, whether it’s through Jim Crow, whether it’s through slavery, whether it’s through the internment of the Japanese through WWII, but what the liberals fail to understand is the oppressor is usually the very same government we are fighting against. I don’t mean fighting against literally but fighting against in the excess of power and the taking of liberty.

We get their point of view, we get it. There are oppressed people. There is a battle and there always has been a battle for people to break though, against the oppressive forces against them.

But what the liberals fail to understand about us. Is that the coercer is the government the overwhelming majority of the time! Yes there are some powerful corporations which have made bad decisions over time. We get that. But the overwhelming majority of time a monopolistic use of force has been by an oppressor and that oppressor has been the government. It infuriates libertarians and conservatives that liberals don’t get this.

Talk about this battle of the oppressor versus oppressed while they simultaneously forces people into making decisions which they don’t want to make.

Hey, buy health care or we are going to penalize you. WHAT! I thought this was about the oppressor versus the oppressed? Yet they are telling us to do something we don’t want to do. How do we know that? Because if we wanted it, we would have bought the dang health care already.

So I get penalized only when I don’t want healthcare. So when there was a tax penalty, can I assume it is only going to hit those who don’t want to do it?

Yup, that’s oppression! What is it?

You don’t want to make a decision and the government is forcing you now to make. If you want the healthcare then that fine/fee doesn’t apply to you. It only applies to you because you don’t want to do it. This is what infuriates us with the liberals.

We get your point of view. There are oppressed people. I just don’t get why you don’t get us?

When you only see the world as an oppressor versus and oppressed people and you fail to see the coercion verses the liberty argument on our side, and it all makes perfect sense to you. It is because you are blind to reason.

Reason – the use of facts and logic to come to a decision.

Have you considered for a second that what Donald Trump has done since coming into office has actually limited government power to oppress people?  The ability for you to push oppression on others?

Try using reason just a little. If the world to you is the oppressor verses the oppressed ask yourself this, what has Trump done since being in power to take his power and to increase it over you?